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Interesting accusation ref. 2 girls murder
Last Post 12/06/2017 1:39 PM by Wrascal. 247 Replies.
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Wrascal Senior Member Senior Member Posts:1326
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07/18/2007 10:56 AM
    Who knows, it may be factual or just speculation. I feel it bears being checked out if it hasn't already been discounted. http://www.writing.com/main/books/e..._id/460790
    Wrascal Senior Member Senior Member Posts:1326
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    07/18/2007 2:30 AM
    I feel that we need to ENCOURAGE people to speak up about their suspicions/little details that they may have/know. Even if it proves to be unfounded, it may turn up some other helpful info.

    I also feel we should DISCOURAGE those who would belittle, condemn, intimidate or otherwise pooh-pooh them from speaking out. That person may have the unknown answer, and should be listened too.

    Eight years of official information has led to nothing concrete.
    cmom Senior Member Senior Member Posts:1340
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    07/18/2007 8:37 AM
    SouthernBama,I read these post too,as I was coming too the part where this guy lived at the time,Herring,I got the chills.As I went on into a later date,did you get the feeling that this person writing all this was a woman?First I thought it was a man until I kept reading..This person that was writing about,who he or she thought was the person that killed JB and Tracie,did you ever find out by reading if the OPD had ever checked up on him? I didnt get that far..Hope everone will come to the Candle Light Vigil for the young victims,and to let ppl know we havent forgot,especially the parents of J.B. and Tracie..
    peanut804 Veteran Member Veteran Member Posts:334
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    07/18/2007 9:30 AM
    Entry #460790, added on 10-11-06 @ 7:46 am EDT.
    [Entry Access Restriction] None.

    OK...I'm a little confused. Who is the author of this article? How did you come across it? I'm relatively new to the board and need a little help with the history. I know and have followed the JB & Tracy case, or at least as much as has been released, but where did this article come from? How can more info be gathered and given to a credible investigator? Who would be a credible investigator? By the way........this is my first post on any board ever!!!!
    Wrascal Senior Member Senior Member Posts:1326
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    07/18/2007 10:59 AM
    Now the actual article


    Entry #460790, added on 10-11-06 @ 7:46 am EDT.
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    Title: Tracie Hawlett and J.B. Beasley



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    Tracie Hawlett and J.B. Beasley, both 17 - were killed execution style in 1999 with a single gunshot each to the heads, then stuffed in the trunk of a car and left on Herring Ave, in Ozark, AL.

    Now- this is where this gets extremely wierd. In order to correctly tell their story, I need to go back 10 years prior, to 1989.

    June of 89, I went to AIT here at Ft. Rucker, AL. There, not only did I meet my now ex-husband, but I also met the mother of Gene- the young man who lives upstairs from me, the one to whom I've referred lately. She was my maid of honor at my wedding.

    His mom was married to Butch. Butch was a great guy. He loved his wife and kids, was a good man all around.

    He went to Desert Storm and when he came back, he and Nancy- the mother, and by then one of my best friends- went out to Cabaret, a local nightclub. They drank some, got in a fight and she left him there.

    Butch began walking home. During his walk, he got an asthma attack- supposedly. His inhaler was found in his hand. He was killed by a car on that dark road- a road seldom used.

    Nancy recieved a good deal of money from his death and always insisted it was for her boys' school.

    I'm not the only one who believes Nancy killed him.

    To date- 15 years later, at the ages of 19 and 21, neither boy has seen a penny. The other son just joined the Army and is slated for Iraq.

    Nancy has a bad history of cheating on her husbands and, with the sole exception of Butch, picks men who are angry, abusive, controlling and dangerous.

    All of them have abused Gene. Nancy always allowed it. Nancy would use the older kids to watch the younger ones. This is her fourth marriage, and we're awaiting another child. She always has at least one child per marriage.

    Nancy and I had a major falling out maybe 10 years ago because I didn't like how she was treating her kids, and to be honest, how she was living her life. She didn't want to hear any of it. With her, it's always about her and no one else.

    I hadn't seen Gene or the kids for several years until last week, when there he was. Somehow, he and I always pop back into each others lives after many years.

    This time, he shocked me by introducing a wife, stepson and his first baby. He has a wonderful family!! I'm so proud of him, even though his mother says otherwise to him.

    Gene had moved to Florida for a few years with Nancy and that family. To show up back here, living right above me told me something.

    We had a lot of catching up to do, and he told me Nancy had remarried in February of this year to husband #4. He didn't say the name right away. He did say this guy had pulled a gun on her before they were married, treated her like shit, her family like shit and was abusive and extremely controlling. Still- no name. Had he said a name I would have not been surprised because this guy- A.) has a very unique name, and B.) is exactly like that.

    How do I know? Let me go back to last night first, when I got the bomb dropped in my lap.

    They wanted me to come upstairs to read a letter Nancy had written to Gene, Nancy's father and several members of the family. There were 2 pictures- both of the wedding day, one with Nancy and her new husband and one with them and the kids.

    When I saw the man, my jaw dropped. I said- I know that guy!! When Gene told me the name- Clenton, I about shit my pants.

    He was out on $25,000 bond when they got married. Nancy married his ass anyway, even though he held a gun to her throat and threw it at one of the kids.

    Needless to say, I was in terrible shock because I worked with this guy on 3rd shift for 3 years, and he's insane.

    This is the same guy that followed Roger home one day and pulled a 9mm out of his car threatening Roger. I have that in a journal somewhere here at WDC, I'll have to find it.

    Clenton and I would talk sometimes about Bingo, and just bullshit stuff, and sometimes, he'd get this look in his eyes that would scream dangerous. He's go out on the flightline and cut helicopter tires to the core. They caught him a time or two.

    He was abusive to many girlfriends.

    And he lived on Herring Ave in Ozark, AL.

    Roger and I talked about this a lot; we both feel he's the one who killed Tracie Hawlett and J.B. Beasley that night in 1999.

    He has a 9mm; a 9mm was used.

    The murders happened very late at night; Clenton worked 3rd shift and was always out late on nights he didn't work.

    The police feel the person who did this had done it before; Clenton has a history of abuse and violence.

    The police profile matches Clenton.

    Clenton was fired from Army Fleet Support because he refused several times to take a drug test. He claims he was laid off. This is not true.

    There are more facts, but I will not divulge them right now because they are too sensitive.

    Their case was featured on Americas Most Wanted, but the tips led nowhere.

    I've fought with myself for years about calling in a tip, however, due to police corruption in Ozark, I do not believe this case will ever be solved.

    One thing remains true: There is a killer on the loose; a killer of two 17- year old innocent girls, and I believe he is married to the mother of my young friend and is now living somewhere in Florida.

    The question is: What do I do now?


    southernbama Veteran Member Veteran Member Posts:385
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    07/18/2007 11:00 AM
    I read over several of the entries by hitting previous on that link. The person has some really bad mental problems and it was confusing.
    Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
    Ephesians 6:11-12
    devils advocate Veteran Member Veteran Member Posts:346
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    07/19/2007 1:01 AM
    let me throw a wrench in the monkey works here. I have seen alot about the murders and have a few clues that will intrest alot of people. #1 a 9mm was not the murder weapon it was a 380. Had it been a 9mm the round would have traveled through the girls bodies and through the trunk pan. ( for those of you that don't know they found the slugs in the trunk) A 380 and a 9mm are the same size projectile the 380 just carries a smaller powder charge. Therfore it didn't have the force to travel through the bodies and out of the car like a 9mm would. Call any bullett manufacturer and they will tall you the same. So you kill them with a 380 and plant a 9mm shell casing in the car and throw everything out of wack right out the gate. #2 the girls were in the trunk when they were shot ( refer back to #1) and from the angle of the entry and exit wounds it was by a left handed shooter. Now that I have opend the door for more debate I look forward to debunking your next speculation with fact. More to come later.
    cmom Senior Member Senior Member Posts:1340
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    07/19/2007 1:27 AM
    Devil,I dont watch CSI,I do cold case files,and to me thats just what Ozark PD needs,someone to look at this cold case,thats getting colder everyday.True they may have been wet from any possible way,I was refering that if they were wet,were their clothing tested to see if dna could tell where the wet was from.Why was the OPD fishing the ed lisenby lake for JBs keys?Somehow they went there for some reason..I still feel that the one they arrested in the beginning knows something,not saying he did this crime,but think he was scared,saw something.I also think there was more than one person.What does it take Devil too solve a crime?
    AMTTOWING Veteran Member Veteran Member Posts:494
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    07/19/2007 3:34 AM
    V.F.T. F-OFF & DIE, I GET INVOLVED IN SOME OF THIS TRASH U SOBS STIR AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I'M BEING TRASHED, WHY  ISNT W-GRASS.COM SPREADING SOME OF THE RULES .UNEVENLY, I MUST SAY SO. WHY DONT YOU STEP IN AND SAY SOMETHING TO THESE PREVELENT A-HOLES, IF ONLY I KNEW WHERE SOME OF THESE HEXES ARE I WOULD CONFRONT THEM BUT THEY STAND TALL BEHIND THEIR KEY BOARDS. I BET YOUR HUSBAND IS A WIRELESS ROUTER!VFT ! WOULD THE PERSON THAT SPOKE WITH ME IN THE PAST REPRESENTING W.COM PLEASE CALL ME AGAIN . MAYBE YOU CAN GUIDE ME TO THESE TROUBLE MAKERS!&
    AMTTOWING Veteran Member Veteran Member Posts:494
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    07/19/2007 3:40 AM
    VFT, JUST LOOKING THRU SOME OF YOUR POSTINGS ,JUST HOW OLD ARE YOU ? 3 OR 103 YOU ARE NOTHING. TO THE WIREGRASS HERE . YOU MY GOOD WINCH ARE THE ONE THAT CRAVES AN AUDIENCE. WHY DO YOU MESS WITH W.COM HAVE YOU SHOT YOUR WADD WHERE YOU ARE OR SIMPLY AFRAID TO BE APPROACHED EASILY FROM YOUR OWN AREA, ? IT WOULD TAKE A BURDEN OFF W.COM IF YOU WE'RE BANNED PERMANANTLY FROM COMPUTER CHATS OTHER THAN YOUR MORE FAMILIAR AREA OF CIBORING !!!!!!!!!!!
    AMTTOWING Veteran Member Veteran Member Posts:494
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    07/19/2007 3:44 AM
    ALSO VFT, WHY DID YOU JUMP OFF THE BAND WAGON DISCUSSING THE 2 GIRLS RIGHT TO BASHING ME WHY DON'T YOU CALL ME ,THEN WE CAN SPEAK MAN TO KEY BOARD MY # IS 334-445-4546 WAITING FOR YOUR CALLS!
    southernbama Veteran Member Veteran Member Posts:385
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    07/19/2007 3:52 AM
    To AMTTOWING Posted By devils advocate on 07/19/2007 9:17 AM "And by the way it could have been done by one person... If that person had a tow truck." posted by southernbama "Another theory, no who do we know that has a tow truck business? nah, just joking David Daniels." Did you see the part where I said, "just joking". I probably got things stirred up but I was joking. There's just so many theories here lately, I had to kind of snicker at that remark by devils advocate.
    Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
    Ephesians 6:11-12
    VenusFlyTrap Senior Member Senior Member Posts:710
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    07/19/2007 3:58 AM
    David, I won't call you but I will meet you at the moonshine still if you would like, LMAO!
    Posted By VenusFlyTrap on 07/19/2007 11:17 AM
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    I rest my case, hehehe
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    VenusFlyTrap Senior Member Senior Member Posts:710
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    07/19/2007 4:06 AM
    David, I took some of the posts to pointing a finger to you as a possible suspect for killing the girls. I jumped off that "bandwagon" and onto your "bandwagon" defending you as a possible suspect to murder, with the truth. I guess the truth hurt you more than the fiction did.... My bad, I apologize!
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    AMTTOWING Veteran Member Veteran Member Posts:494
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    07/19/2007 4:17 AM
    FOR EVERYONES INFO YES, I WAS QUESTIONED 3 TIMES. NO I WAS NEVER A SUSPECT. AND YES THERE WAS A REFLECTION IN THE WINDOW OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE THAT I DID SAY RESEMBLED THE BED OF A ALUMINUM BED ROLL BACK. AND I WAS GUIDED BY MR. MIXON BYRD ALMOST AS THOUGH THEY WANTED ME TO VERIFY A ROLL BACK. AND ASKED ME OF THE OWNERS OF SUCH ALUMINUM BED ROLL BACKS , WHICH AT THAT TIME ONLY 2 OTHER BUSINESSES HAD THIS TYPE OF TRUCK . BUT THAT WASN'T ENOUGH, THEY ASKED IF ANOTHER BUSINESS MAN HAD THIS TYPE OF TRUCK AND I ADVISED HE DIDN'T. I KINDA ENJOYED MY ANSWER TO THE LAST QUESTION THEY ASKED ME. THE QUESTION WAS , IN MY OPPINION COULD BARRENTINE HAVE DONE THIS? MY REPLY WAS ( IF HE DID IT , HE DONE 1 THING WRONG ) HE ASKED WHAT WAS THAT , I SAID  (IF HE DID IT HE DONE 1 THING WRONG,HE DID IT RIGHT RIGHT , THATS WHY YOU CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT ) I WAS'NT BEING CRUEL TO ANYONE BUT THEY DNA'D MYSELF AND EVERYONE THAT WORKED AT MY SHOP, SO WHY DIDN'T THEY DNA EVERYONE AT THE S.O. AS I STATED INITIALLY I'D SAY GO BACK AND DNA EVERYONE THAT WAS IN THE AREA IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AT THAT TIME AND MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT . NOT A REQUEST, SEE IF YOU CAN CATCH A FISH IN THE SAME ROOM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   AS YOUV'E READ RECENTLY A DEPUTY BEAT A PERSON ALMOST ALL THE WAY TO DEATH, WITH HIS OWN 2 HANDS, IF HE WERE'NT A SUSPECT THEN WHAT ABOUT NOW! THER WERE AT LEAST 3 OTHER DEPUTIES REFUSED BEING DNA'D PUT THEM AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE FOR TESTING
    Smokey Advanced Member Advanced Member Posts:119
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    07/19/2007 4:23 AM
    Posted By VenusFlyTrap on 07/19/2007 9:58 AM
    With all of the people living around Herring Ave and James St. No one heard a gunshot or two in the dead of the night while they slept or were up watching the tv because of insomnia.... Of course the killer(s) could have had a silencer too....
    I don't think that some person driven by his emotional rage would kill someone in his backyard and leave them in his backyard, so to speak.
    I also don't give someone with the title "devil's advocate" much credibility for speaking "facts".

    The investigators do not believe they were killed on Herring AVE. The blood that has leaked from the trunk was blow back against the underside of the car and that could have only have happened it the car has been moved after they were shot. I seriously doubt that the killer would have parked the car "right in front of his house"

    As for the tow truck theory, I think that came from the fact that they couls not locate any foreign DNA in the drivers seat. If noone was driving it then it would of had to of been towed to herring ave. I personally am not a big fan of this threoy but it is possible. I think the fact that their was no foreign evidence in the car points to someone who knew them and frequented that car, like family or friends.

    As for my opinion on Johnny having done this, if he had any involvement they would of had him. I grew up around Johnny B and he is a good ol boy, but as dumb as a brick. As hard as Ozark tried to pin it on him the fact that they could not says he did not do it. If he had done it the case would of been solved in 5 minutes and we would not be having this discussion.
    VenusFlyTrap Senior Member Senior Member Posts:710
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    07/19/2007 4:38 AM
    Hey Smokey!!!!! I was posting in reply to devil's advocate's post about the link posted by Southern regarding the person who thought someone named Clement (If remember correctly) who lived on Herring Ave and had a terrible temper toward women as being a possible suspect. I also believe the girls were killed elsewhere and left on Herring to be found. Most killers would be ashamed and not want anyone to find the body or bodies but this one wanted them found and quickly. I also heard that there was a hand print found in the car that didn't match the rest that were in the car.... David Daniels, Are tow trucks quiet? Is it possible a tow truck could do this in the night and not be heard especially by the two houses right below Herring Ave?
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    southernbama Veteran Member Veteran Member Posts:385
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    07/19/2007 4:43 AM
    The repo guys certainly have to be sneaky; just asked my sis in law. She woke up one morning, found her car gone, and thought it was stolen. She called the police and they informed her that she needed to contact her finance company, her car had been repo'd.
    Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
    Ephesians 6:11-12
    VenusFlyTrap Senior Member Senior Member Posts:710
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    07/19/2007 4:51 AM
    LOL Southern,
    I have a friend who was married to a repo man. After he was shot for the 3rd time and wouldn't change careers she left him. Most have a key that's like a universal key or something for cars and some have a copied key to the car they are repossesing and they walk upto the car as the people sleep and will push it into the road and drive it on off.... They do report a repo to the police so the police knows what happened when the car is reported stolen. They do it in the wee hours because it's safer. If one has to use a tow truck they would have a police scort for doing so. But I don't know how they do things in Alabama.... I watched a repo show on TLC once and it's a dangerous job but they usually have a key that gets them in the car and lets them drive it away. People get very creative about keeping their cars and they know the repo man is coming... They place snakes in the cars, remove batteries and tires, sleep in the cars... Repo men are despised!!!! Most don't use a tow truck in the dead of the night though.
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    Smokey Advanced Member Advanced Member Posts:119
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    07/19/2007 4:58 AM
    I do remember them questioning David as he said above. They had him cleared pretty quick as I remember it. There are so many theories on this murder it is almost impossible to know where to begin. I still lean on a close friend, boyfriend, or family member, however that is my hunch, I can not even begin to prove it
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