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Carolyn_SUser is Offline Senior Member Senior Member Send Private Message Posts:1363
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09 Jul 2007 10:40 AM
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you know the more i think about this the more strange freezing that reward money seems. it may happen but i've never heard of a reward being done this way while the crime is still unsolved and VERY VERY open.
has anyone else ever heard of it?
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VenusFlyTrapUser is Offline Senior Member Senior Member Send Private Message Posts:710
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09 Jul 2007 10:50 AM
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I haven't heard of it and I too find it odd. I also find it odd that the people aren't trying to raise their own reward money to get the case solved. Granted officials stopping it is an eyebrow raiser.
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cmomUser is Offline Senior Member Senior Member Send Private Message Posts:1340 Avatar
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10 Jul 2007 12:14 AM
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Hey Carolyn, If Beth Twitty could have done what she wanted to do in Aruba,she would have had the killers..The police there,were the worst I have seen,they botched the case,all because of the laws,and they lady pros.handling the case.I admire her to the highest,she did what any good parent would do as well as her Natalees father.It's a shame that all the turmol they were going through cost Beth her marriage to Mr.Twitty,for Beth was gone alot,but shes still going at it.I hope and pray she will see the ones that killed her daughter,think shes seen them,just have to wait for proof,and maybe there ever wont be any,sure hope she and Natalees father can get justice.
Carolyn_SUser is Offline Senior Member Senior Member Send Private Message Posts:1363
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10 Jul 2007 09:45 AM
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y'all know SOMEBODY with law enforcement ties likely takes a peek at our forum so my suggestion to them ( and i am sure they are waiting with bated breath to please me) is to answer the occasional question- not one that jeopardizes the investigation (assuming there is one) but to let the public know that this case is still important to them!
some people think beth twitty (natalee holloway's mom) was a B**** on wheels when dealing with the Aruban authorities about her daughter but i admire her for her committment to keeping natalee's case in the news. thats what it takes to solve a case- consistent in-your-face investagation.
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Carolyn_SUser is Offline Senior Member Senior Member Send Private Message Posts:1363
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12 Jul 2007 03:54 AM
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me too, cmom, and i think that the ONLY reason those killers haven't been caught is b/c daddy had some political clout and money. what a shame
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donna_1958User is Offline Veteran Member Veteran Member Send Private Message Posts:222 Avatar
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13 Jul 2007 08:00 AM
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Was doing some browsing about the new assistant principals hired at Carroll and found an article on JB and Tracie. here is the link I hope it works http://dothanfirst.com/media_player...ia_id=3619 also the haunting evidence show on court-tv will be aired on Aug. 15 at 9 p.m.
VenusFlyTrapUser is Offline Senior Member Senior Member Send Private Message Posts:710
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14 Jul 2007 08:55 AM
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Thank you Donna. Spivey needs to be telling the people why the investigation isn't continuing instead of misleading them. It is believed that OPD wants the state to pay for the investigation but they don't want the state in charge of the investigation.
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VeritasUser is Offline Veteran Member Veteran Member Send Private Message Posts:435 Avatar
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17 Jul 2007 12:50 AM
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Crime scene photos...I haven't seen them myself, and I haven't had any contact with the guy who has them, but I know people who HAVE seen the photos and video. Best I can tell, this guy was somehow connected with the defense lawyer, and as a part of the legal process (disclosure), the prosecution was required to give the defense EVERYTHING they had. That included the crime scene photos, video, even tips and emails that were given to police. I'm not sure whether the defense lawyer was required to observe strict secrecy or not. But it's something that I've heard from multiple sources, people who don't know each other, that AT LEAST two sets of the photos made it out into the public, and were shown to people who weren't connected with the prosecution or defense teams. I shudder to think about it, but I wonder whether disclosure included the autopsy videos? That's something that NOBODY should see.
cmomUser is Offline Senior Member Senior Member Send Private Message Posts:1340 Avatar
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17 Jul 2007 01:35 AM
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This to me is the most horrific thing I have ever heard of. How did anyone other than the police,dist attorney,and defense lawyers get ghold of crime scene photos.If this is true,then I feel an investagation should be held to see how these ppl got the pictures.Horrible. Even if it were disclosure,that ment to lawyers,ppl in law..not people on the street.
echogirlUser is Offline New Member New Member Send Private Message Posts:16 Avatar
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17 Jul 2007 04:15 AM
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I am truly sorry that the girls were killed unhumane.. BUt i think the post by Veritas has become very ludicrous as it seems to me that they only was a spot light on there racist religion.. I being of the white race i think its people like Veritas that makes the world a much worse place. VEritas get over you and your religion and let the officias move on with the investigation which god i pray there doing. I pray for the families of the people and there loss.
sylvia dodgenUser is Offline New Member New Member Send Private Message Posts:1 Avatar
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18 Jul 2007 08:15 AM
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A town in Britain had a rape and murder. All the men in the town volunteered DNA. There was peer pressure to submit. It was the right thing to do. The murderer submitted to DNA tests because his whole soccer team agreed to be tested at the same time. He did and was caught. Simplistic idea but would it work here?
StingrayUser is Offline New Member New Member Send Private Message Posts:2 Avatar
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18 Jul 2007 09:18 AM
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Sorry, Sylvia but the State won't pay for that to happen, ever.

Hello Veritas, long time no see or hear from, where you been?
echogirlUser is Offline New Member New Member Send Private Message Posts:16 Avatar
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19 Jul 2007 01:08 AM
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I went on a drive after reading your post. I refuse to acknowledge your stupidity. Anyways yeah we do southernbama and you know this person is making them self out to look like a F'ing moron anyways have fun Veritas i won't acknowlodge your stupidity anymore.. One more thing you wanna talk shit about me.. Come talk it to my face.. I have no problem taking a ass whipping or giving on
VenusFlyTrapUser is Offline Senior Member Senior Member Send Private Message Posts:710
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19 Jul 2007 01:22 AM
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hey hey hey.... watch the language as well as the my font can kick your font anytime of the day stuff.


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To both of you!
What our religious title is does not matter.... It only matters that you believe that Christ died for our sins. Which entity of man kind you learn it from is not important... Sheesh!
I asked veritas if he was a racist and he answered no... What i will now ask is what is the difference between a racist and a racist hater?






Answer.... Nothing as far as I can tell.... It's hatred no less no matter how you decorate it! What makes it different is which religious denomination you learned to hate from!!!!!
Get over yourselves already!


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VeritasUser is Offline Veteran Member Veteran Member Send Private Message Posts:435 Avatar
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19 Jul 2007 10:44 AM
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*grin* Hi there, Stingray! Been drivin' my life away, as the old song goes. I moved to the Selma area (some racist I am, huh, moving into the heart of the Black Belt??? Black neighbors on three sides, by the way! *wink*) about three years ago and I've been working on my mom's old place ever since, clearing land and putting in a well and septic tank and all the amenities. Unfortunately, the company I was working for has "gone mexican", so I wound up on the big road again. More money, but dang, those weeds grow so FAST!!!! I go home and have to spend half a day just taking ground back from the jungle!!! Ground that I'd already cleared!!! But that's life in these changin' times, I guess. Good news is, I cleared it with dispatch....she promises me she will have me back in Dothan on August 31st.
VeritasUser is Offline Veteran Member Veteran Member Send Private Message Posts:435 Avatar
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19 Jul 2007 10:58 AM
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hahaha! Greetings to you, too, echogirl. Haven't I seen you in here before, back in 99 or 2000? VenusFlyTrap and I have argued endlessly about this, but she can SPELL, she has an education, she is articulate and her thoughts are challenging. She makes me stop and question myself. Fascinating person!!! Unfortunately, there are "simple" people in this world who have to put a label on my beliefs. Their tiny little minds can't quite grasp the "big picture", but a catchy, one word label, now that's something they can get their teeth into! People like you are the reason I haven't tried to organize anything, such as an independent reward fund. I'm not hindering anyone from investigating this case. In case you didn't / couldn't read my earlier posts, I sat down with the OPD / FBI for the better part of a day, and would do it 100 times again if it would help. What have YOU done? Seriously, I catch myself wondering if perhaps you weren't involved with the murders, and maybe my questions are hitting too close to home. As my grandma used to say, "hit dog hollers!"...
echogirlUser is Offline New Member New Member Send Private Message Posts:16 Avatar
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19 Jul 2007 11:21 AM
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This is a very laughable offense.. Seems like i know now why no one listened to you when you SUPPOSIBLY sat down with the OPD or FBI for a better part of a day.. Also you do nto know who i am in the least and no i have never been on here since this is a NEW NAME i made due to after they upgraded i lost my name.. But i will tell you what.. If you try to slander me with what im saying is TOTAL BS.. I will make you eat your words.. Cause i dont make threats keep that in mind.. But i will say this. There si a lady from Echo (Mid Land City) That will tell you i am not a violent person. But if you think you cna throw BS at me of saying (QUOTE) Seriously, I catch myself wondering if perhaps you weren't involved with the murders, and maybe my questions are hitting too close to home.(END QUOTE) I will make you eat your words.. Not in a physical manner befor eyou get some stupid idea in your mind. I will make it a hell of a life for you in a court room not filled with your non-christian beliefs
echogirlUser is Offline New Member New Member Send Private Message Posts:16 Avatar
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19 Jul 2007 11:23 AM
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I think you shoudl just sit back like im going to do and be quiet. we do agree on one thing.. OPD will never resolve anything because they do nothing but hounnd and harrase people. Last time ill post in here cause whew that stupid comment you made pissed me off to no ends.
VeritasUser is Offline Veteran Member Veteran Member Send Private Message Posts:435 Avatar
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19 Jul 2007 11:26 AM
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http://www.pcog.org/Default.asp?sit...ureLibrary

Since the subject has been brought up, it seems only fair (to enquiring minds, haha!) to show you what echogirl is so upset about. Click on the link, and download the pdf file of "United States and Britain in Prophecy". It's free. 200+ pages. Written by Herbert W. Armstrong, who used to be on TV all the time before he died. People of ALL RACES are part of Philadelphia Church of God. If you can find anything racist or hatemongering in that book / pdf, I'll kiss your bootie in front of a crowd and give you til the 31st to draw a crowd. Nuff said.
southernbamaUser is Offline Veteran Member Veteran Member Send Private Message Posts:385
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19 Jul 2007 11:31 AM
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Do we know each other???
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
Ephesians 6:11-12
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