VenusFlyTrap
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| 22 Aug 2007 05:08 AM |
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It's OK cmom, calm down.... You've all known something was wrong within OPD for some years now... I shook the tree today and you can see who fell from the very first shake, the one who was there when the problems began.... We do have the hope that OPD will be following up on all of this. |
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cmom
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| 22 Aug 2007 05:37 AM |
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Needless too say I am shocked,and truly hope OPD or SD will look into this...
It shocks me too know that this deviladvocate was who it is..... |
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southernbama
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| 22 Aug 2007 06:17 AM |
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THANK GOODNESS I GOT FRIENDS IN THE JUNGLE! I AM CERTAINLY SURPRISED THAT VENUS GET'S A SLAP ON THE HAND FOR THIS WHEN ALL THAT OTHER CRAP WAS GOING ON BEFORE AND NOTHING WAS DONE. I CAN TYPE IN ALL CAPS TOO! |
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Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. Ephesians 6:11-12 |
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VenusFlyTrap
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| 22 Aug 2007 06:39 AM |
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LOL, you all calm down.... The moderator wasn't picking on me. Slander is a funny threat for someone to make and I don't blame the moderator one bit. Someone who works within and or for the public eye aren't protected by slander and libel laws like the ordinary citizen is. Bad teachers, bad cops, bad mailmen, politicians.... If you serve the public you can be held publically accountable for what happens on your watch and the laws will protect the citizens who seek accountability if it can be shown newsworthy and I can show it is newsworthy! The cops (former or not) and the private investigators posting here have demonstrated corruption and a double standard as well as broken some laws that they knew they were breaking.... I expected something to come of my post and I am not disappointed.... You now have seen for yourselves who the problem has been. Keep shaking the tree is all I can tell you but don't be mad at Jason or Leah, they are good people!!!! |
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alabama girl
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| 22 Aug 2007 06:42 AM |
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It is amazing how much you can get accomplished just by knowing the right people. I am very surprised Venus was scolded. I feel like saying "what eh veh" talk to the hand cause the ears ain't listening. |
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Carolyn_S
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| 22 Aug 2007 06:47 AM |
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jason and leah do a good job with this board. if somebody in or with ties to officials asked them to have us tone it down then we have to respect their request so venus you were quite gracious.
guys just remember b/c you are silenced on any issue doesn't mean that you have to change your opinion. |
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Carolyn_S
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| 22 Aug 2007 06:52 AM |
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well wrascal i do believe this is the first time i've seen you lay down the law..... hehe
Posted By Wrascal on 08/22/2007 12:38 PM
The font looks the same to me... Same old crap and bull... I find it amusing that xxxxxxxx the man responsible for ripping the community apart, with his crooked, dirty cop, self-righteousness is selling cars to the community. I am not surprised Spivey would continue to look the other way.... I sense a storm is brewing... Been fishing lately?
I DON'T KNOW HIM OR YOU (AND IT MAY EVEN BE FACTUAL) BUT I FEEL THAT WAS TOTALLY UNCALLED FOR.
USE OF CAPS FOR EMPHASIS.
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southernbama
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| 22 Aug 2007 06:54 AM |
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I'VE SEEN THE "TOTALLY UNCALLED FOR" WORDS BEFORE. |
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Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. Ephesians 6:11-12 |
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Veritas
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| 22 Aug 2007 06:54 AM |
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About the guy who hugged JB in Headland...as far as I know, nobody witnessed him hugging JB. Hugging her was part of his story, as related to me by mutual friends.
Yes, he was interviewed, and quite thoroughly from what I heard. Far as I know, he was the last person (who actually knew the girls) to see them. I never met the guy, as far as I know, but he was very well liked by the Headland "in-crowd" and that's saying something...the young people in Headland (back then) were some wild party animals, but they didn't tolerate habitual liars, thieves, sneaks, etc...
I doubt very seriously that he knows anything more than he told OPD... |
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devils advocate
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| 22 Aug 2007 08:06 AM |
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venus I'm sorry if you feel threatened I mean you nor anyone else any harm. I am doing my best to give out what info and theories I have rattiling around in my head to get a new light shone on this whole thing. And it sad but I believe in my heart this case will probably never be solved because the right people don't want it solved. But we can try to shed light on them and maybe the powers that be will quit playing games and do something right. |
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Veritas
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| 22 Aug 2007 09:36 AM |
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I believed for YEARS as you do, that the powers that be don't want it to be solved...but I've changed my mind...let's say I'm HOPEFUL, for the first time since 2000.... |
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devils advocate
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| 22 Aug 2007 10:26 AM |
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Ok I will say this I do have alot of answeres that I have not given in some cases I can't answer the question as it is given for legal reasons but I will answer what I can and I am always looking for a different answer for the questions that I have. And venus I'm not the one fishing here your the one living on an island fishing all the time. And just for the record I don't sell cars but you know I do find it funny that the former deputy cheif works there and the city of ozark just bought two or three cars from there tony spivey is sure driving a nice new grand marquis with advertisement on the trunk lid. Think about that for a min. How do you like my font now?? |
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Carolyn_S
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| 22 Aug 2007 10:46 AM |
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we should not lose sight of the fact that these girls can' demand justice for themselves and we should all, as a community and as human beings accept no less than every avenue be explored to solve the case. police work psychics, whatever. this is my neighborhood. i live a mere few blocks from herring. i've seen this neighborhood go straight to hell over the past few years. these murders, the buttholes that are selling drugs to our kids, the vandalism; i am just sick of it. i am not just going to stand by and have a "can't help it" attitude. if some gentle prodding of law enforcement will get any of these problems resolved i can bitch till the fat lady sings....but i promise, i will refrain from any slander. can't afford a lawyer and i doubt that those southern law folks that helped mr spellman would be interested in me.  |
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monkeyford
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| 22 Aug 2007 11:29 AM |
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All right then Advocate, so why not you answer the same question I asked of Taylor? You may not be a fisherman, but you sure do like to dangle the carrots in here! Hey, maybe you're dangling the carrot WITH a fishing pole! |
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Wrascal
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| 22 Aug 2007 11:38 AM |
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The font looks the same to me... Same old crap and bull... I find it amusing that xxxxxxxx the man responsible for ripping the community apart, with his crooked, dirty cop, self-righteousness is selling cars to the community. I am not surprised Spivey would continue to look the other way.... I sense a storm is brewing... Been fishing lately?
I DON'T KNOW HIM OR YOU (AND IT MAY EVEN BE FACTUAL) BUT I FEEL THAT WAS TOTALLY UNCALLED FOR.
USE OF CAPS FOR EMPHASIS. |
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southernbama
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| 23 Aug 2007 12:46 AM |
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It's getting hot in here!!!!!!

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Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. Ephesians 6:11-12 |
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alabama girl
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| 23 Aug 2007 02:43 AM |
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Whew!!! Go to work and everything blows up. I wanted to apologize to the moderators. I didn't like the way Venus was attacked by some of the posters. I realize that you did the right thing for your forum. I was reacting on personal feelings instead of from a legal standpoint. I guess names should be left out.
There are a lot of sensitive things going on here. Emotions are high. I do lean toward the crime scene being botched. I have often felt, that most not all , law enforcement need more training than what they get. I have had several friends and relatives that are in law enforcement and for the type of things they have to do I think training is lacking. Maybe I don't know what I am talking about, but if I was in charge and had two young girls murdered under my watch I would be trying to get all the qualified help I could find. I don't think that is what happened on this case. I think it was a power struggle. OPD or top dogs of OPS wanted to come out on top. I keep hoping that in the future OPD and DCSD will unite and respect each other. Why the seperation? Isn't Ozark a part of Dale County. Yes, it is. We have a fine sheriff that wants the best for this county. This crime needs to be solved. Hopefully, the case was not so botched that EXPERIENCED investigators can solve it with everyone's help. I keep praying the murderer will turn himself in. Anything is possible with God's intervention. |
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VenusFlyTrap
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| 23 Aug 2007 02:46 AM |
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Posted By devils advocate on 08/23/2007 10:35 AM
Posted By devils advocate on 08/23/2007 10:09 AM
Ok I did not work for ,with,around,to,at,next-to,beside,on top of ,or in the same area as opd or the stupid DC. He and his minions are the ones who ruined the crime scene and destroied most of the evedence. What part of this do you not understand?? I am NOT going to tell you who I am or who I worked for on the case so let just move on. I thought you wanted facts about this case not the people who worked on it. All you are doing is trying to discredit and out people so you can run back to whomever you are reporting to with info on the people on here. You seem to care more about who's who than discussing the case.
Advocate woould you mind explaining what I am doing here exactly? Use the spoon....
Who am I reporting to? Why would I care about who is who? It's a public forum I am confused about who it is and what it is I should be reporting to and about, would be a blind person or someone unable to read this forum on their own?..... Do fill us all in with your "factasies".
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Wrascal
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| 23 Aug 2007 05:10 AM |
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well wrascal i do believe this is the first time i've seen you lay down the law..... hehe
Well I believe that you may be fishing here, but I'll bite and admit that I flagged the post in question. And I support the sites decision to delete the offending entry. But that is the only part I played in "laying down the law". This posting was very direct, vicious, and aimed at a person by NAME. Had there been NO name it would have been different situation.
It was in fact the second time I've flagged someone on here. Once long ago, DD got way out of line and I flagged him. This posting called ALL site users (not just those he was flaming) a--holes.
Heres to wishing for another "fine day of sun". Go outside and enjoy!
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Carolyn_S
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| 23 Aug 2007 05:14 AM |
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bet y'all thought i'd gone to the psychic's house for a colorful afternoon of spirit chasing.... nothing so glam i am afraid. i opened the frig and a gallon of milk fell out and burst so chase and i had major mopping and cleaning to do.
but....u know i gotta add my 2 cents....
1-lots of newbies on the board
2- who cares?
3- if these newbies are spies for those with ~agendas~ they aren't getting much info b/c i'm banking that none of us murdered JB & Tracie
4- OPD screwed up the forensics-> what else is new?
5- Old DC out, new DC in
6- Old DC is selling used cars? gotta make a living.
VFT has always been opinionated; this isn't a new attitude. she says what she thinks.....duh, its a "FORUM"
devil et all are not about to tell anybody anything unless they want to .
i've just figured out i have nothing helpful to add.
LOL......
but i enjoy the rhetoric....
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~~Some days it just doesn't seem worth the effort to gnaw through the straps...~~
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**Seether Fan**
Shaun Morgan is my GASOLINE |
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